Soy versus whey protein. The battle between soy protein and whey protein as a muscle building compound has been raging for a few years now.
Here at Middle Management, we lay out the facts so that you can make an informed decision on which protein source, soy protein or whey protein, fits your muscle building and fat burning needs.
Of course, if you are a vegetarian, soy is the best choice. For everyone else, the decision may prove more difficult.
We will examine the following criteria as we examine the soy vs. whey controversy:
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While both types of protein present general health benefits, we want the protein that gives us the largest dose of usable muscle building protein and essential amino acids. This will help increase a maintain lean muscle mass, which will also aid fat burning.
As you know, we are looking for hard facts and data to make decisions about our bodies. Therefore, without further delay, the facts about soy versus whey protein.
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All three of the macro nutrients contain carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. Unlike carbohydrates and fats,however, protein also contains nitrogen.
This unique nature of proteins allows us to utilize the measures below to make decisions.
Additional Facts About Protein
The Biological Value indicates both how digestible the protein is and how available the protein is for use by the body. Biological value began as a percentage - A whole egg rated at 100% nitrogen absorbed.
As time progressed, protein powders became better sources of protein, exposing a flaw in the BV measurement system. Today, the number is on an adjusted scale such that a whole egg is has a BV of 100. This allows some processed proteins to have biological values greater than 100. Obviously, the higher the number, the better.
How do the BV values compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||BV|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||74|
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The NPU measures the ratio of protein consumed through a person's diet, to the amount of nitrogen emission.
The value varies from 0 to 100 and is often interpreted as a percentage. A value of 100 means that the body uses 100% of the protein provided. Conversely, a value of 0 signifies that none of the nitrogen converts to protein in the body. Therefore, the higher the number, the better the protein.
How do the NPU values compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||NPU|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||61|
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The FDA used the protein efficiency ratio to derive the recommended daily allowance of protein seen on food labels.
Some concerns with PER include the fact that rats utilize protein differently than humans, leading into some calculation errors. These errors cause a slight overestimation of animal protein and a slight underestimation of plant protein.
Also, PER measures only growth, and says nothing of maintenance. As a result, it might not be the best measure of the quality of protein for those of us attempting to burn fat.
How do the NPU values compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
Any protein having greater than a 2.7 PER calculation is considered an excellent source of protein.
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||PER|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||2.2|
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One limitation of the AAS is that it does not consider the digestibility of the protein.
A value greater than 1 indicates that the protein being considered contains a greater amount of essential amino acids than humans require.
How do the AAS values compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||AAS|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||0.99|
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Like the AAS, the PDCAAS measures the It measures essential amino acids in a protein compared to a reference protein. The reference protein meets the essential amino acid requirements of humans, and is given a PDCAAS of 1.0.
The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) set out to address the concerns about some of the measurements above with the PDCAAS measurement. As a result, many health experts recognize PDCAAS as the standard measure of protein quality.
This method is not without flaws, however. In particular, in 1990, the FAO/WHO decided that proteins having a PDCAAS higher than 1.0 would be rounded down to 1.0 to indicate that it meets or exceeds the requirements of the average human.
These essential amino acid needs of the average human may be significantly lower than the needs of bodybuilders, weight lifters, and other highly active individuals.
Because of the rounding down of proteins that have scores greater than 1.0, there is no way to discern differences between proteins with a PDCAAS score of 1.0 other than to refer back to the other measures that PDCAAS hoped to eliminate.
As indicated below, this lack of clarity is of particular concern in the soy versus whey protein debate.
How do the PDCAAS values compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||PDCAAS|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||1.00|
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Protein digestibility is the PD component of the PDCAAS above.
It is interesting to note that, while the FDA is replacing PER as the standard measure of protein quality with PDCAAS due to differences between humans and laboratory rats, the PD% is determined by evaluating laboratory rats.
How do the PD percentages compare in the soy versus whey protein debate?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||PD%|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||95%|
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Glutamine also increases muscle cell volume through cellular hydration. Glutamine supplementation also increases growth hormone levels, which leads to the muscle using fatty acids for fuel rather than blood sugar.
Those looking to build muscle should consume 3 to 5 grams of glutamine, 3 times per day.
It is obvious that we may prefer the protein that has the highest concentration of glutamine.
How do our contestants stack up in the soy versus whey protein battle?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||Glutamine per 100g of Protein|
|Soy Protein Concentrate||10.5g|
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You must have the right combination of non-essential and essential amino acids in sufficient quantities in order to build muscle. Therefore, a comparison of the essential amino acid profile is a necessary component in the soy versus whey protein comparison.
This comparison provides additional clarity on the amino acid scores (AAS and PDCAAS) listed above.
How do the essential amino acid profiles compare in the soy versus whey protein comparison?
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||mg EAA per g of Protein|
|Amino Acid||Soy Protein||Whey Protein|
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|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||Arginine per 100g of Protein|
However, that is not to say that it is not a good idea to supplement with soy protein. Soy protein is shown to be an excellent source of protein and can be used effectively in bodybuilding supplementation, particularly for those who are vegetarians or lactose intolerant.
|Soy Vs. Whey Protein||Protein Type|
|Criteria||Soy Protein||Whey Protein||Better Protein|
|Biological Value (BV)||74||104||Whey Protein|
|Net Protein Utilization (NPU)||61||92||Whey Protein|
|Protein Efficiency Ration (PER)||2.2||3.2||Whey Protein|
|Amino Acid Score (AAS)||0.99||1.14||Whey Protein|
|Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score (PDCAAS)||1.00||1.00||Push|
|Protein Digestibility Percentage (PD%)||95%||99%||Whey Protein|
|Glutamine per 100g of Protein||10.5g||4.9g||Soy Protein|
|mg EAA per g of Protein||378mg||480mg||Whey Protein|
|Arginine per 100g of Protein||7.6g||2.9g||Soy Protein|
Based on many of the emails we have received, many of you have strong opinoins on your favorite type of protein. So, if you have an opinion, or think that we are wrong, then let us know!
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Why Not Try This Combination?
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Question for All
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Ripped Ralph Not rated yet
The two categories where soy beats whey protein are the most important to me personally. (Fat burning, warding off mental and physical fatigue as well …
Hmmm Not rated yet
Although whey comes out on top, I like the people who posted saying why not have both, or that you should get protein from many sources. Who is to say …
Whats from Nutrilite then? Not rated yet
Hi. I heard that the largest food supplement organisation Nutrilite makes its protein powder from the soy isolates and gets 7 of the 9 essential amino …
Soy Not rated yet
I used to use whey all the time to bulk up, but in 2009, i had a severe intestinal disease, after which whey became a lot more difficult to digest comfortably. …
RLFLINT Not rated yet
Because of the higher amount of glutamine and arginine it sounds as though soy protein would benefit those taking protein during extended workout or endurance …
Bubba Belly Not rated yet
Would the estrogen levels in each of the foods source be interesting to list?
Andrew Not rated yet
Hello I have been taking soy protein for 2 years. I converted to soy from whey after discovering the how bad milk and milk products were for me. …
Soy inhibits your ability to absorb minerals Not rated yet
There are many more reasons to avoid soy than just the phyto-estrogens... It also inhibits your ability to absorb minerals ... See mercola.com for more …
"The China Study" by Collin Campbell Not rated yet
A very complete book "The China Study" by Collin Campbell is a complete evaluation of animal protein and plant protein. The conclusions are that increased …
Soy is Better Not rated yet
Soy is the healthier approach, notice whey beat soy in most of the building categories and soy beat whey in the healthy categories, soy all the way either …
BV Values Off? Not rated yet
BV value is off--- The +BV value test involved mice and their biological systems need to make fur was involved, Humans don't make fur -- soy scores …
Both Not rated yet
Supplementing both proteins into my diet have worked much better than either alone, and have given me the best of both and more nutrients.
Does it really matter? Not rated yet
So, if whey is from cows, is it from milk? and if so, wouldn't it be better to get a wide variety of proteins, rather than only one type. if so, then …
New Study 2004 Not rated yet
Greg Paul, Ph.D., director of health and nutrition for The Solae Company says: "The results of this study show that soy protein is just as effective …
The Combo Not rated yet
I've had the best results when consuming large amounts of whey protein in large amounts of soy milk.
Watch Out For Allergies Not rated yet
Many adults are allergic to whey and milk (and may not be aware). Soy may come out ahead for you if it is not taxing your system with an allergic load. …